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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, are you enlightened? Is that the same thing as you talking about the higher self? What happens then, do you feel the oneness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, are you enlightened? Is that the same thing as you talking about the higher self? What happens then, do you feel the oneness?</p>
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		<title>By: raisingwindhorse@live.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>raisingwindhorse@live.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not be considered a devote buddhist by any reach of the imagination. I have known many true buddhist some of whom were close to Pema&#039;s main teacher Chogyam Trunga Ripoche. These opinions the author has attributed to Pema are not her&#039;s but those of her teachers. Such a tirade leads me to wonder what percevied injury she has done to him to cause such a response. From all this I can easily conclude that he has only a clinical understanding of buddhism. I have noticed a western or anglo approach to buddism is to analyze the wealth of writing avalible and to proclaim themselves literary experts on the subject. I can not imagine the buddhist lay people of Tibet understanding such an attack on a non tibetian teacher. This is an attach on Buddha himself. Were this another belief system the author would find himself in the company of  Salman Rushdie or some previously obscure Dutch cartoonist.  I can only conclude from my meager and humble understanding of buddhism than the author knows less about ego than do &quot;I&quot;  

  ;^) 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not be considered a devote buddhist by any reach of the imagination. I have known many true buddhist some of whom were close to Pema&#8217;s main teacher Chogyam Trunga Ripoche. These opinions the author has attributed to Pema are not her&#8217;s but those of her teachers. Such a tirade leads me to wonder what percevied injury she has done to him to cause such a response. From all this I can easily conclude that he has only a clinical understanding of buddhism. I have noticed a western or anglo approach to buddism is to analyze the wealth of writing avalible and to proclaim themselves literary experts on the subject. I can not imagine the buddhist lay people of Tibet understanding such an attack on a non tibetian teacher. This is an attach on Buddha himself. Were this another belief system the author would find himself in the company of  Salman Rushdie or some previously obscure Dutch cartoonist.  I can only conclude from my meager and humble understanding of buddhism than the author knows less about ego than do &#8220;I&#8221;  </p>
<p>  ;^) </p>
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		<title>By: Golden Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golden Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Waligore: I can see that the main point in your article is not to try to understand the teachings of Pema Chodron. You are only trying to demonstrate the validity of your ideas against the non-validity of others ideas, specially those who reject the concept of an allmighty God around and above us all. To you, we are nothing more than heretic atheists. Now, let me explain myself: To say that all Buddhits are atheist, is to show your inmense ignorance about the sublime Dharma, as you use it only as a way to try to convert people by demonstrating the &quot;faults&quot; of Buddhist teaching. It is obvious to me that you are not trying to understand profound teachings and doctrines of the Buddha, just to disqualify them. To me, the idea of rejecting the idea of God is as heretic as trying to gain proof of its existance... boths extremes are beyond your knowledge. If this is not the case, and it is true that God talks to you, ask him from my part what and where were you in your previous lives... you may find the answer quite clarifying if you get it, as you may discover the true motives of your religious possition... only last but not least, dont attack other people belief system as this may cause a future rebirth as an stupid creature...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Waligore: I can see that the main point in your article is not to try to understand the teachings of Pema Chodron. You are only trying to demonstrate the validity of your ideas against the non-validity of others ideas, specially those who reject the concept of an allmighty God around and above us all. To you, we are nothing more than heretic atheists. Now, let me explain myself: To say that all Buddhits are atheist, is to show your inmense ignorance about the sublime Dharma, as you use it only as a way to try to convert people by demonstrating the &#8220;faults&#8221; of Buddhist teaching. It is obvious to me that you are not trying to understand profound teachings and doctrines of the Buddha, just to disqualify them. To me, the idea of rejecting the idea of God is as heretic as trying to gain proof of its existance&#8230; boths extremes are beyond your knowledge. If this is not the case, and it is true that God talks to you, ask him from my part what and where were you in your previous lives&#8230; you may find the answer quite clarifying if you get it, as you may discover the true motives of your religious possition&#8230; only last but not least, dont attack other people belief system as this may cause a future rebirth as an stupid creature&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SelfDoesNotExist</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>SelfDoesNotExist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This essay demonstrates a profound mis-understanding of the Jatakas, and particularly the meaning of the Vessentara Jataka. This essay is the fantasy of a deluded mind, not a scholar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This essay demonstrates a profound mis-understanding of the Jatakas, and particularly the meaning of the Vessentara Jataka. This essay is the fantasy of a deluded mind, not a scholar.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Waligore:

http://www.archive.org/details/Tse_Chen_Ling_Robina_Courtin_No_Fear_060804

in that link you and your readers can have an audio with a more broad explanation of the (for our western references) extremes examples quoted in your post.

It may give a more precise context, and maybe even sustain your point, and at the same time, Shantideva&#039;s and Pema&#039;s points too.

Bests,

Diego</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Waligore:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Tse_Chen_Ling_Robina_Courtin_No_Fear_060804" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/Tse_Chen_Ling_Robina_Courtin_No_Fear_060804</a></p>
<p>in that link you and your readers can have an audio with a more broad explanation of the (for our western references) extremes examples quoted in your post.</p>
<p>It may give a more precise context, and maybe even sustain your point, and at the same time, Shantideva&#8217;s and Pema&#8217;s points too.</p>
<p>Bests,</p>
<p>Diego</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-From &quot;The Places That Scare You&quot;-

* &quot;Confess you hidden faults.&quot;
I think that I am right and you are wrong.
That s my fault. You are right and I am wrong.


* &quot;Approach what you find repulsive.&quot;
I get here because you pay a Google Ad to read you. I don-t find this repulsive. I found interesting.

* &quot;Anything you are attached to, let it go.&quot;
A have a lot of this. Stay tuned.

* &quot;Go to places that scare you.&quot;
Not here, of course. But I have plans.

* &quot;Help those you think you cannot help.&quot;
Well, finally, thats the point. 
Here I am, Mr. Waligore. 
What can I do for you? What do you want? What can I give you?
How can I help you?
I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-From &#8220;The Places That Scare You&#8221;-</p>
<p>* &#8220;Confess you hidden faults.&#8221;<br />
I think that I am right and you are wrong.<br />
That s my fault. You are right and I am wrong.</p>
<p>* &#8220;Approach what you find repulsive.&#8221;<br />
I get here because you pay a Google Ad to read you. I don-t find this repulsive. I found interesting.</p>
<p>* &#8220;Anything you are attached to, let it go.&#8221;<br />
A have a lot of this. Stay tuned.</p>
<p>* &#8220;Go to places that scare you.&#8221;<br />
Not here, of course. But I have plans.</p>
<p>* &#8220;Help those you think you cannot help.&#8221;<br />
Well, finally, thats the point.<br />
Here I am, Mr. Waligore.<br />
What can I do for you? What do you want? What can I give you?<br />
How can I help you?<br />
I will.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is healthy for such critical essays to be written but do feel that the author has misunderstood the nature of the Buddhist doctrine of emptiness and dependent-arising otherwise would not be confused over the fact that the self does not exist ultimately yet has conventional existence.

Also, the criticism that there have been mistakes made by Tibetan Buddhists such as quoted by the fifth Dalai Lama, and the current Dorje Shugden controversy, is not an argument against the wisdom of the teachings, but a demonstration of the fallability of humankind.  As a Mahayana Buddhist myself, I am not keen on attempts to denigrate the so called &#039;Hinayana&#039; teachings.

I do not claim to know all of the answers but, for me, Buddhism respresents the best path to wisdom and compassion that I have found thus far.  The author is, of course, free to choose his own path, but I think that the above essay sadly demonstrates a great many misunderstandings of what Pema Chodron is teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is healthy for such critical essays to be written but do feel that the author has misunderstood the nature of the Buddhist doctrine of emptiness and dependent-arising otherwise would not be confused over the fact that the self does not exist ultimately yet has conventional existence.</p>
<p>Also, the criticism that there have been mistakes made by Tibetan Buddhists such as quoted by the fifth Dalai Lama, and the current Dorje Shugden controversy, is not an argument against the wisdom of the teachings, but a demonstration of the fallability of humankind.  As a Mahayana Buddhist myself, I am not keen on attempts to denigrate the so called &#8216;Hinayana&#8217; teachings.</p>
<p>I do not claim to know all of the answers but, for me, Buddhism respresents the best path to wisdom and compassion that I have found thus far.  The author is, of course, free to choose his own path, but I think that the above essay sadly demonstrates a great many misunderstandings of what Pema Chodron is teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Lotus</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualcritiques.com/author-criticisms/pema-chodron/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate to many of the sentiments expressed here. Some of those examples of compassion is what pema terms &#039;idiot compassion&#039;. Compassion does not mean co-dependency or giving away your spouse or child to priests as &#039;chattel&#039;. So patriarchal! 

Mahayana and some bodhisattas suffer from a subtle ego since they put interprters words and explanations above those spoken by Buddha, Tathagata and shown by his living example. Buddha never claimed divinity and emphasised human birth is precious, since only human beings have the seed potential for enlightenment and ultimate liberation. Devas and gods in the higher planes of 31 planes in Buddhist cosmology do not. Unfortunately to comprehend buddha&#039;s teaching one has to be developed in sila and prajna and not just practice samadhi as emphasised in many Zen and Tibetan traditions. 

Please read Buddha&#039;s actual words in Pali or translations from pali and the social personal context each teachings were given is very important. Buddha emphasised to avoid both extremes in his middle way to avoid distortion in perception and comprehension of his teachings. Extremes of non-self (annihilation or aversion of self sense) is as distorting as clutching to a (sense of permanent self). Our sense of self naturally evolves if we are not to attached to social conditionings or ego identity through labels. Read &#039;Kalama Sutta&#039; to judge the merit of any teaching or teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to many of the sentiments expressed here. Some of those examples of compassion is what pema terms &#8216;idiot compassion&#8217;. Compassion does not mean co-dependency or giving away your spouse or child to priests as &#8216;chattel&#8217;. So patriarchal! </p>
<p>Mahayana and some bodhisattas suffer from a subtle ego since they put interprters words and explanations above those spoken by Buddha, Tathagata and shown by his living example. Buddha never claimed divinity and emphasised human birth is precious, since only human beings have the seed potential for enlightenment and ultimate liberation. Devas and gods in the higher planes of 31 planes in Buddhist cosmology do not. Unfortunately to comprehend buddha&#8217;s teaching one has to be developed in sila and prajna and not just practice samadhi as emphasised in many Zen and Tibetan traditions. </p>
<p>Please read Buddha&#8217;s actual words in Pali or translations from pali and the social personal context each teachings were given is very important. Buddha emphasised to avoid both extremes in his middle way to avoid distortion in perception and comprehension of his teachings. Extremes of non-self (annihilation or aversion of self sense) is as distorting as clutching to a (sense of permanent self). Our sense of self naturally evolves if we are not to attached to social conditionings or ego identity through labels. Read &#8216;Kalama Sutta&#8217; to judge the merit of any teaching or teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: waligore</title>
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		<dc:creator>waligore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to agree that all spiritual paths went to the same mountaintop, but I no longer do.  I wrote about my reasons why on this site in the section labeled &quot;Popular Spiritual Ideas&quot;  subsection, &quot;Many paths up to mountaintop.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to agree that all spiritual paths went to the same mountaintop, but I no longer do.  I wrote about my reasons why on this site in the section labeled &#8220;Popular Spiritual Ideas&#8221;  subsection, &#8220;Many paths up to mountaintop.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can perceive some resentment in Waligore&#039;s article, not a good place from where to share anything.

And despite all the intelectual knowledge that he seems to show, his lack of understanding of the so complex no-self doctrine makes him unfitted to write about.

We buddhists can&#039;t show-off if we have any spiritual realization, even less talk about it, it just naturaly exudes. I wouldn&#039;t trust anybody who is saying that God talk to him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can perceive some resentment in Waligore&#8217;s article, not a good place from where to share anything.</p>
<p>And despite all the intelectual knowledge that he seems to show, his lack of understanding of the so complex no-self doctrine makes him unfitted to write about.</p>
<p>We buddhists can&#8217;t show-off if we have any spiritual realization, even less talk about it, it just naturaly exudes. I wouldn&#8217;t trust anybody who is saying that God talk to him!</p>
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